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New Scope

Postby Forky141 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:31 am

Hi all just need advice on new Scope for xmas.
Wanting a goto scope and can afford £300 maybe push £400.

All advice will be taken seriously.
Thanks
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Re: New Scope

Postby EIZO » Tue Dec 12, 2017 10:48 am

You say new scope but don't say if you have owned one before "new first one" or new another"

You also dont say what you want to use it for, deep sky, Moon, Planets, grab and go or fixed.

If it is a first scope AVOID and EQ mount, they look great in the shop, and when you are sitting in your nice warm lounge, now take it out in the dark at night in the cold and spend ages kneeling in the damp freezing grass peering through the Polar scope (which you should have, cheap scopes mounts don't always have them) trying to align it.

Me I would get a DOD, Well within budget

But from a proper shop not a "box shifter", say Rother valley optics or Wide screen Centre

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Re: New Scope

Postby Forky141 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 12:43 pm

Thanks for response this will be my second scope I currently use Bresser Refractor Scope current use lunar only but I would like to see the other neighbour planets maybe other Solar Systems if possible clearly...will also like to connect DSLR camera if possible.

Yeah I`m not far from Rother Valley Optics hoping to drop in for advice etc before xmas if I can

Cheers David
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Re: New Scope

Postby Aratus » Tue Dec 12, 2017 6:44 pm

If you want a 'goto' for £400 then you will spend a big proportion of your money on the 'goto' part relative to the actual telescope. However, it does reduce all that messing about trying to find objects. Its a thing you have to weigh up before buying.

The Celestron Nexstar 4SE springs to mind.
https://www.firstlightoptics.com/se-series/celestron-nexstar-4se.html

or the Skywatcher Skymax 127 SynScan AZ GOTO
https://www.firstlightoptics.com/az-goto/skywatcher-skymax-127-synscan-az-goto.html

There would be no harm in going to a proper astronomy shop and taking a look at the options.
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Re: New Scope

Postby EIZO » Tue Dec 12, 2017 7:11 pm

The problem with such a small budget means you get very little by way of scope, as has been said most goes on the mount, therefore cheap scope
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Re: New Scope

Postby Gfamily2 » Tue Dec 12, 2017 9:29 pm

EIZO wrote:The problem with such a small budget means you get very little by way of scope, as has been said most goes on the mount, therefore cheap scope

There's nothing 'cheap' about the SkyMax 127 scope - it has a very nice OTA, albeit with a relatively narrow field of view.

The Synscan mount is very good too - so long as you get it properly levelled and do a 2-star alignment it will perform accurate GOTOs and hold its tracking for long periods.

It's our preferred scope for taking on holidays - under dark skies it gives very good results, and takes up relatively little space in the car

Unfortunately though; for that sort of price you're not going to get a scope that will be good for any AP longer than 30 seconds. Not all is lost though, you will be able to do planetary and lunar imaging, as these are usually done using a web-cam or other video camera.
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Re: New Scope

Postby EIZO » Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:19 am

Cheap is "relative", to me it is cheap

Think about it as a Buyer and I mean a contracts buyer, purchasing officer, R and D

Scope costs £395, take off profit to re seller, take of cost to middle man (supplier) remove cost of impor, take off manufacturing costs and you are left with an item that has materials used to the value of perhaps less than £80-100. The £395 you pay isn't what the materials used are worth.
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Re: New Scope

Postby Gfamily2 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 11:28 am

EIZO wrote:Cheap is "relative", to me it is cheap

Think about it as a Buyer and I mean a contracts buyer, purchasing officer, R and D

Scope costs £395, take off profit to re seller, take of cost to middle man (supplier) remove cost of impor, take off manufacturing costs and you are left with an item that has materials used to the value of perhaps less than £80-100. The £395 you pay isn't what the materials used are worth.


I have no idea how that has any relevance at all to the OP's situation. You could say that about any purchase whatsoever.

Indeed, you could say argue that the vendor and the importer will accept lower margins on high volume articles, so you're getting a far better deal on a £400 'package' than on a single low demand 'high end' £400 component.
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Re: New Scope

Postby EIZO » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:10 pm

I am responding to YOUR comments
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Re: New Scope

Postby Gfamily2 » Wed Dec 13, 2017 12:18 pm

EIZO wrote:I am responding to YOUR comments

That doesn't really help the OP though, whereas I hope my comment would reassure him/her that the 127mm Mak is not a 'cheap' scope.
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